Dear Project Owner, Thank you for your invite, but as stated in my profile I ONLY accept "Payment is Guaranteed" projects. I believe I am speaking for most of the serious, hard working designers out here. We have all had bad experiences with non-guaranteed projects, most designers have found that we not only put in long hours of our time on the work itself, but even after several refinements requested from the client still no payout, no feedback, no winner. Most of the non-guaranteed projects not only get extended time after time for periods of up to 3 months but in the end the clients have gotten a refind. collect enough ideas to take our work and go get the job done by a local Graphics Designer in his area. We have seen this happen over and over again. If you would like serious designer's participation would you please guarantee the project out of respect for all of us. Thank You very much for your understanding....Dave Michels

Hi Dave,
Thanks for your comments. As a first time user of Design Crowd, I was unaware of the options and of the potential angst that could be created. After your comments I have upgraded the status to non-refundable. I am grateful to having had 5 designs so far, and I would very much appreciate your participation in return. I will honour the deadline that I have given, but would like to see a few more options before I commit to the winner. Regards, Robert Todd

dave right .and if i cant earn money here i will out in this site (p_q)

Wow Robert, the winner sure did follow your brief to the letter didn't he ?. Since you changed you mind on what you wanted I sure wish that you had updated the brief so I could have changed my submission to accommodate you.